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		<title>By: Stephen Macasil</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-17463</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Macasil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus,

I don&#039;t see why you have a problem with the adjective &quot;Liberal.&quot; Cone, just like his two major influences Paul Tillich and Karl Barth, are liberals, theologically. 

Cone&#039;s ideology is nothing more than racist existentialism.

It isn&#039;t Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why you have a problem with the adjective &#8220;Liberal.&#8221; Cone, just like his two major influences Paul Tillich and Karl Barth, are liberals, theologically. </p>
<p>Cone&#8217;s ideology is nothing more than racist existentialism.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Croom</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-17459</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Croom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to inform you that the theology is called &quot;Black Liberation Theology&quot;. I also wonder if you have ever read Professor Cone&#039;s work on the subject or even Professor Carter&#039;s entire article response. Carter does not &quot;refute&quot; Black Theology as you stated on another blog. He based his work on it and radicalized it by departing from a flawed tendency he noted in it. His work legitimated Cone&#039;s watershed scholarship beautifully by doing what real scholarship does, improving on prior work while applying it to the present and future of humanity. You and others sound somewhat trapped by unbaptized bodies, to borrow from Carter&#039;s thought. 

May God&#039;s Best Be Yours...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to inform you that the theology is called &#8220;Black Liberation Theology&#8221;. I also wonder if you have ever read Professor Cone&#8217;s work on the subject or even Professor Carter&#8217;s entire article response. Carter does not &#8220;refute&#8221; Black Theology as you stated on another blog. He based his work on it and radicalized it by departing from a flawed tendency he noted in it. His work legitimated Cone&#8217;s watershed scholarship beautifully by doing what real scholarship does, improving on prior work while applying it to the present and future of humanity. You and others sound somewhat trapped by unbaptized bodies, to borrow from Carter&#8217;s thought. </p>
<p>May God&#8217;s Best Be Yours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5702</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BOC, 

Your conclusions prove my point while your premises contradict your conclusions. It&#039;s a little amusing. 

Like I said, America is &quot;greater&quot; in its culture and way of life as set up in the governmental structure set fourth by the Framers which were influenced by Christians values. 

To say otherwise is anti-American and anti-reality. You are sounding like a typical liberal communist/socialist somewhat. 

I&#039;d hate to cook hot-dogs with you this up and coming 4th of July (it would be depressing). Why even celebrate? We are and were greater then England. The attacks from the liberals like yourself are attempting and eliminate those values in our American culture due to their post modernistic philosophy of Humanism and their hate for Christianity.

Jean Cauvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BOC, </p>
<p>Your conclusions prove my point while your premises contradict your conclusions. It&#8217;s a little amusing. </p>
<p>Like I said, America is &#8220;greater&#8221; in its culture and way of life as set up in the governmental structure set fourth by the Framers which were influenced by Christians values. </p>
<p>To say otherwise is anti-American and anti-reality. You are sounding like a typical liberal communist/socialist somewhat. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to cook hot-dogs with you this up and coming 4th of July (it would be depressing). Why even celebrate? We are and were greater then England. The attacks from the liberals like yourself are attempting and eliminate those values in our American culture due to their post modernistic philosophy of Humanism and their hate for Christianity.</p>
<p>Jean Cauvin</p>
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		<title>By: the BOC</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5696</link>
		<dc:creator>the BOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean Cauvin-
culture--5 a: the integrated pattern of human knowledge, belief, and behavior that depends upon the capacity for learning and transmitting knowledge to succeeding generations b: the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; also : the characteristic features of everyday existence (as diversions or a way of life} shared by people in a place or time   c: the set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization  d: the set of values, conventions, or social practices associated with a particular field, activity, or societal characteristic  

There are many more staying in their countries than flocking here. Why do they come--a better opportunity to succeed. Culture has nothing to do with it. Where does American culture come from? The very countries you listed that lack culture! You have issues, my friend!! Deep rooted issues that may need fasting to achieve deliverance. I&#039;ll be glad to help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean Cauvin-<br />
culture&#8211;5 a: the integrated pattern of human knowledge, belief, and behavior that depends upon the capacity for learning and transmitting knowledge to succeeding generations b: the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; also : the characteristic features of everyday existence (as diversions or a way of life} shared by people in a place or time   c: the set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization  d: the set of values, conventions, or social practices associated with a particular field, activity, or societal characteristic  </p>
<p>There are many more staying in their countries than flocking here. Why do they come&#8211;a better opportunity to succeed. Culture has nothing to do with it. Where does American culture come from? The very countries you listed that lack culture! You have issues, my friend!! Deep rooted issues that may need fasting to achieve deliverance. I&#8217;ll be glad to help!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5668</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BOC,

Ha-ha, why would they come to America for a &quot;BETTER&quot; way of life if the culture/country they&#039;re from is equal in culture/life? 

I don&#039;t have to visit a country to judge a country. I take this a-priori. Remember BoC,

&quot;You don&#039;t have to drink the ocean to realize the water is salty.&quot;

Jean Cauvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BOC,</p>
<p>Ha-ha, why would they come to America for a &#8220;BETTER&#8221; way of life if the culture/country they&#8217;re from is equal in culture/life? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to visit a country to judge a country. I take this a-priori. Remember BoC,</p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t have to drink the ocean to realize the water is salty.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jean Cauvin</p>
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		<title>By: the BOC</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5656</link>
		<dc:creator>the BOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Cauvin wrote:

&quot;The country of Mexico is inferior to the America Culture (tremendously inferior) in terms of culture. So is Spain and France and all of the African continent.&quot;

Tell that to someone who lives in those countries. Have you ever lived in any of those countries? Not visited, but lived? Doubt it--so keep your biased opinions to yourself! People aren&#039;t coming here because of culture, John. They come here for a better way of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Cauvin wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;The country of Mexico is inferior to the America Culture (tremendously inferior) in terms of culture. So is Spain and France and all of the African continent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell that to someone who lives in those countries. Have you ever lived in any of those countries? Not visited, but lived? Doubt it&#8211;so keep your biased opinions to yourself! People aren&#8217;t coming here because of culture, John. They come here for a better way of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Johnny, 

The various cultures that people bring to America do not represent the American culture. This is the logical fallacy of Composition (the parts don&#039;t make up the whole).

When we speak of the American culture we are talking about the Christian influences that the American Framers had in developing our country. Though many were not Christians, most were influenced via Christian values thanks to the Reformation.

These elements are still functional in our government system structure. Though the liberal socialists/communists (e.g .Obama, Clinton, McCain) are trying to destroy this cultural influence and are winning various battles. 

So these new cultures that are comming into America are not changing the American governmental structure. The countries where they are most likely from have an inferior government structure then American (especially Mexico).

But of course, that&#039;s why all these various people from various cultures are coming to America to begin with. To escape their inferior wasteland (i.e. Mexico).

Hope that helps. 

Jean Cauvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Johnny, </p>
<p>The various cultures that people bring to America do not represent the American culture. This is the logical fallacy of Composition (the parts don&#8217;t make up the whole).</p>
<p>When we speak of the American culture we are talking about the Christian influences that the American Framers had in developing our country. Though many were not Christians, most were influenced via Christian values thanks to the Reformation.</p>
<p>These elements are still functional in our government system structure. Though the liberal socialists/communists (e.g .Obama, Clinton, McCain) are trying to destroy this cultural influence and are winning various battles. </p>
<p>So these new cultures that are comming into America are not changing the American governmental structure. The countries where they are most likely from have an inferior government structure then American (especially Mexico).</p>
<p>But of course, that&#8217;s why all these various people from various cultures are coming to America to begin with. To escape their inferior wasteland (i.e. Mexico).</p>
<p>Hope that helps. </p>
<p>Jean Cauvin</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny B</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5444</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you define American culture? Since we are a mixture of other cultures and/or races. There is no, American race, but there are indigenous people that were here before, the founding of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you define American culture? Since we are a mixture of other cultures and/or races. There is no, American race, but there are indigenous people that were here before, the founding of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://biblicalthought.com/blog/truth-about-black-liberal-theology/comment-page-2/#comment-5055</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the Bible supports the notion that not all cultures are equal. Some cultures are superior to other cultures while some cultures are inferior to other cultures.

The country of Mexico is inferior to the America Culture (tremendously inferior) in terms of culture. So is Spain and France and all of the African continent. 

This has nothing to do with race, but rather culture. I&#039;ve heard very few people assert this claim.

Thus this Mexican holiday is disgusting and extremely filthy as far as holidays go. Our culture should flush it down from back where it came from.

Jean Cauvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the Bible supports the notion that not all cultures are equal. Some cultures are superior to other cultures while some cultures are inferior to other cultures.</p>
<p>The country of Mexico is inferior to the America Culture (tremendously inferior) in terms of culture. So is Spain and France and all of the African continent. </p>
<p>This has nothing to do with race, but rather culture. I&#8217;ve heard very few people assert this claim.</p>
<p>Thus this Mexican holiday is disgusting and extremely filthy as far as holidays go. Our culture should flush it down from back where it came from.</p>
<p>Jean Cauvin</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis, there is no Mexican history month, it&#039;s Hispanic history month. Which is a fallacy, the people they are calling Hispanic, are not from Spain. They are indigenous people that where already here, before the Hispanic influence came to the Americas. They are not Latin or Latino either, they&#039;re Meso-Americans. But you are right there are Mexicans and others central and south American peoples.

Here&#039;s my experience with black theology. A guy that I meet, we talked a lot, because we both read a lot. So we would discuss different doctrines, we had some good discussions. Then he started inviting me to meeting at his church, on how to deliver a message, by if I remember right one of the Peps or someone like that. then he invited me to hear a motivational sparker that helps T. D. Jakes, with his books and how to deliver a message. My reaction was &quot;T. D. Jakes!!!!!&quot;. He said no a guy that works with him. I said that good because T.D. is a heretic. Not that it was good about the speaker, because if the Holy Spirit isn&#039;t enough to deliver the message, then you&#039;re in trouble. as you can guess, that was the last call I got. Just because a person is black and has a mega-Church, doesn&#039;t mean his teachings are Orthodox. 
I do remember, him telling me how his father-in-law, preached a message on the Trinity, that made it so clear to him. How the Father, Son, and Spirit are modes of God and that it&#039;s semantics that confuse people. There were others around when he said this, I was asked what I thought. My reply, there not modes of God, that would be modalism. God co-exists eternally as Father, Son, and Spirit. They are three persons (for lack of a better word), eternally, never changing, never separating. 
Because of his pastors understanding or none understanding, of the Trinity and T. D. Jakes being black and having a big church. They freely except him as an Orthodox teacher. Maybe their teaching are out there as well, I never went to his church so I can say. The guy had a good understanding of the Orthodox faith or at least what we talked about. He was doing correspondence courses from Calvin college, which doesn&#039;t mean anything in and of itself. But even the book he read, were a good doctrinally sound writers.
Whatever happened to the Body of Christ, the unity of believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis, there is no Mexican history month, it&#8217;s Hispanic history month. Which is a fallacy, the people they are calling Hispanic, are not from Spain. They are indigenous people that where already here, before the Hispanic influence came to the Americas. They are not Latin or Latino either, they&#8217;re Meso-Americans. But you are right there are Mexicans and others central and south American peoples.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my experience with black theology. A guy that I meet, we talked a lot, because we both read a lot. So we would discuss different doctrines, we had some good discussions. Then he started inviting me to meeting at his church, on how to deliver a message, by if I remember right one of the Peps or someone like that. then he invited me to hear a motivational sparker that helps T. D. Jakes, with his books and how to deliver a message. My reaction was &#8220;T. D. Jakes!!!!!&#8221;. He said no a guy that works with him. I said that good because T.D. is a heretic. Not that it was good about the speaker, because if the Holy Spirit isn&#8217;t enough to deliver the message, then you&#8217;re in trouble. as you can guess, that was the last call I got. Just because a person is black and has a mega-Church, doesn&#8217;t mean his teachings are Orthodox.<br />
I do remember, him telling me how his father-in-law, preached a message on the Trinity, that made it so clear to him. How the Father, Son, and Spirit are modes of God and that it&#8217;s semantics that confuse people. There were others around when he said this, I was asked what I thought. My reply, there not modes of God, that would be modalism. God co-exists eternally as Father, Son, and Spirit. They are three persons (for lack of a better word), eternally, never changing, never separating.<br />
Because of his pastors understanding or none understanding, of the Trinity and T. D. Jakes being black and having a big church. They freely except him as an Orthodox teacher. Maybe their teaching are out there as well, I never went to his church so I can say. The guy had a good understanding of the Orthodox faith or at least what we talked about. He was doing correspondence courses from Calvin college, which doesn&#8217;t mean anything in and of itself. But even the book he read, were a good doctrinally sound writers.<br />
Whatever happened to the Body of Christ, the unity of believers.</p>
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