Comments on: Sola Sinner’s Prayer? http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/ Biblical Christianity, Reformed Theology, Reformed Apologetics Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:34:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Espiridion "Speedy" Camez http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2928 Espiridion "Speedy" Camez Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:30:31 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2928 Hey Travis, can you provide us with a link to that talk show "love gift" offer ? I would like to check it out if I can. Hey Travis, can you provide us with a link to that talk show “love gift” offer ?
I would like to check it out if I can.

]]> By: Travis http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2927 Travis Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:16:56 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2927 This comes from a Calvary Chapel talk show, it makes me want to cry. March 17- 21 for your chance to win a beautiful Tears of Christ necklace! This comes from a Calvary Chapel talk show, it makes me want to cry.

March 17- 21 for your chance to win a beautiful Tears of Christ necklace!

]]> By: Mario http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2925 Mario Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:59:20 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2925 Man, I hate to take this route...but I wonder if it was even Steve Mays that answered you. I'm thinking it was the person who runs the website..... Man, I hate to take this route…but I wonder if it was even Steve Mays that answered you. I’m thinking it was the person who runs the website…..

]]> By: Espiridion "Speedy" Camez http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2921 Espiridion "Speedy" Camez Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:54:46 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2921 Thats why I said" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....? Thats why I said” Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….?

]]> By: Denise http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2920 Denise Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:11:34 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2920 Espiridon, but does Mays still think he was saved outside of hearing the Gospel? For him to revise the webpage alone would compound the problem (I've seen this done before with an apologist who also claimed to have been saved for two years without knowing Jesus was resurrected from the dead--contrary to Rom. 10:9-10). Making the testimony acceptable when the conversion did not take place b/c he did not hear the gospel, believe the gospel, and obey the gospel, is worse, I think, if you see what I mean. Espiridon, but does Mays still think he was saved outside of hearing the Gospel? For him to revise the webpage alone would compound the problem (I’ve seen this done before with an apologist who also claimed to have been saved for two years without knowing Jesus was resurrected from the dead–contrary to Rom. 10:9-10).

Making the testimony acceptable when the conversion did not take place b/c he did not hear the gospel, believe the gospel, and obey the gospel, is worse, I think, if you see what I mean.

]]> By: Espiridion "Speedy" Camez http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2918 Espiridion "Speedy" Camez Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:45:34 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2918 As I thought about it, I wondered............................ can someone just "change" thier testimony???? As I thought about it, I wondered………………………. can someone just “change” thier testimony????

]]> By: Stephen Macasil http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2906 Stephen Macasil Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:43:39 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2906 Espiridion, That's great if he changes it. Espiridion,

That’s great if he changes it.

]]> By: Espiridion Camez http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2905 Espiridion Camez Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:17:18 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2905 I sent an email to Steve Mays asking Him about his testimony and the problem that comes with saying, "I said the sinners prayer and no one even explained it (the gospel) to him yet". Refering to SCRIPTURE he could see how it was a problem. He emailed me back and said: "I will make the changes right away to my testimony and add the scriptures to back up and make sure people know it's Christ and not me. God bless you, and again thanks for this email. So we will see if he changes his testimony. Hmmmm........ I sent an email to Steve Mays asking Him about his testimony and the problem that comes with saying, “I said the sinners prayer and no one even explained it (the gospel) to him yet”. Refering to SCRIPTURE he could see how it was a problem. He emailed me back and said:

“I will make the changes right away to my testimony and add the scriptures to back up and make sure people know it’s Christ and not me. God bless you, and again thanks for this email.
So we will see if he changes his testimony.
Hmmmm……..

]]> By: Stephen Macasil http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2873 Stephen Macasil Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:22:11 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2873 Ed, you wrote: "The faith he described seemed to be in the PERSON Jesus rather than in things He did or how he accomplished those things." From the written testimony, it seems that his faith was in the sinner's prayer. But what is faith in the PERSON Jesus apart from the things he did and accomplished? You also wrote: "I have noticed how often the NT describes our faith as being in Him, not in theories about Him or His works." Wouldn't this also be nothing more than a theory? Ed, you wrote: “The faith he described seemed to be in the PERSON Jesus rather than in things He did or how he accomplished those things.”

From the written testimony, it seems that his faith was in the sinner’s prayer. But what is faith in the PERSON Jesus apart from the things he did and accomplished?

You also wrote: “I have noticed how often the NT describes our faith as being in Him, not in theories about Him or His works.”

Wouldn’t this also be nothing more than a theory?

]]> By: Ed http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2869 Ed Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:29:38 +0000 http://biblicalthought.com/blog/sola-sinners-prayer/#comment-2869 I know nothing more about Calvary Chapel or Mays than that which I have read here. It would not surprise me that he came to saving faith, with little knowledge, in the way he described. The faith he described seemed to be in the PERSON Jesus rather than in things He did or how he accomplished those things. I have noticed how often the NT describes our faith as being in Him, not in theories about Him or His works. He said we must enter the kingdom as a child. It seems a childlike faith would be confidence in a person. The faith is trust in a person not in ideas. The details of what Jesus did may be a power which makes us believe in Him. "These things were written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you may have life in His name"--John the apostle. I know nothing more about Calvary Chapel or Mays than that which I have read here. It would not surprise me that he came to saving faith, with little knowledge, in the way he described. The faith he described seemed to be in the PERSON Jesus rather than in things He did or how he accomplished those things.

I have noticed how often the NT describes our faith as being in Him, not in theories about Him or His works. He said we must enter the kingdom as a child. It seems a childlike faith would be confidence in a person. The faith is trust in a person not in ideas. The details of what Jesus did may be a power which makes us believe in Him. “These things were written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you may have life in His name”–John the apostle.

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