O Happy Day!
By the grace of God, I have finished a new book that defines, documents, and then refutes Eastern Orthodoxy. Books that promote EO are coming out by “Christian” publishers every day. Even some Reformed ministries sell some of these books. I have to believe they do so out of pure ignorance.
My examination of Orthodoxy has taken almost five years. I began by attending their seminars and conferences. I sat quietly listening to Protestants who had converted to EO. I bought their books, tracts, videos and tapes. I acted dumb and asked a zillion questions: What is the best book on deification? Where is the best Orthodox seminary? Can I visit it and do research in their library? Who are the best Orthodox thinkers? What textbooks did you use in seminary?
I traveled to their seminaries and famous churches until I fully understood what they taught and on what arguments they based their teachings. I watched them cross themselves, kiss icons, and wave incense before them as they stood. The last place I went to research EO was the Library of Congress. I sat there from the moment they opened to when they closed reading what they had on EO. The LC is the secret of all my footnotes and documentation. I keep going there until the research is done.
The book (Is Eastern Orthodoxy Christian?) will be at the printers in a month and ready for distribution in six weeks. The Lord has already indicated its effectiveness when a local Orthodox priest stormed into our church and tried to interrupt our worship to demand that I not be allowed to publish the book. My staff threw him out and told him that Dr. Morey would not storm into his church, disrupt his service and attack him in front of his people. I later asked his Bishop for an apology but they have refused to do so. Evidently, they feel they can disrupt a Reformed church at will. If we went and did the same to them, you would hear their squeals and condemnations for daring to interrupt their divine worship. The mad Greek Orthodox priest only encouraged me to continue defending the gospel against all the heresies and false churches that surround us today.
Question: Do you think that priest owed us an apology for disrupting our service? Should we go over to his church and disrupt his service?
23 Comments, Comment or Ping
5pointbaptist
Looking forward to it as well as the one on Natural Theology. I do wish you would write an extensive book on free will. I believe the doctrine of free will to be the cornerstone of all heresies.
Nov 3rd, 2007
Stephen Macasil
Dr. Morey,
I am excited about the new book too. The mysticism that EO is known for is becoming more and more “attractive” to evangelicals. The emerging, or shall we say, the diverging, church movement acts as a giant spiderweb that catches curious evangelicals that are “flying” around in search of something “spiritual.”
Your new book will be a pair of scissors to hand to people caught in the web so that with each chapter, a few more threads can be snipped until the person is ultimately loosed from the snare.
By God’s sovereign saving grace, it will be before the giant spider arrives!
Yes, they owed an apology.
No, we shouldn’t disrupt theirs.
5PB, I’m waiting for the Natural Theology book too. Do you have the Bellflower lectures?
Nov 3rd, 2007
5pointbaptist
Bellflower lectures? If that is the same thing as his 7 or 8 cd lecture on natural theology, then yes I do. Love them. My favorite is still “Christain Philosophy of Science.”
Nov 3rd, 2007
Reformed Mama
YEAH, Dr. Bob!!!
As you know I have lost 8 family members to this despicable cult. My advice as of this moment is an old cliche, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”! People must realize the dangers of EO BEFORE they become seduced!
This cult is a “doctrine of demons” that mesmerizes those not anchored to the Lord Jesus Christ and his Word and painfully divides families.
Thank God for you, Dr. Bob!
Nov 3rd, 2007
Stephen Macasil
5PB, those are them! That’s a funny sounding sentence.
Nov 3rd, 2007
Ola
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that I look forward to this book being published. I had only recently been in contact with a ministry in the US (I’m in the UK), which defends the faith, to ask what material is available on EO as it is really seductive to a number of “Protestants” who would not touch Roman Catholicism. Thanks, in aniticipation.
Nov 3rd, 2007
Stephen Macasil
Ola, if you cannot wait six weeks, may I suggest: http://shop.faithdefenders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=418
I attended these CBUS lectures (7 total), and marked-up the course syllabus. This is an invaluable resource for Christians looking for solid scholarly material on EO that is not infected with PC.
This will give you a head-start so that by the time the book comes out, you will have much more than a basic understanding of deification, apotheosis etc.
Here’s a quick quote from pg. 19 of the syllabus. The chapter (3) is dedicated to documenting the Hellenistic origin, or the Hellenization of Eastern Orthodoxy.
“The worldview of Origen and those who followed him was thoroughly pagan. There were no Jewish or biblical elements in their understanding of God, man, the world, etc. Instead of Christianizing the dominant Hellenistic philosophies and religions around them, they succeeded in Hellenizing Christianity.” - Dr. Robert Morey, Meeting the Challenge of Eastern Orthodoxy syllabus, pg. 19.
Just click the link to order.
Nov 3rd, 2007
travis steele
I think you should not disrupt the service but a good ol demonstration wouldnt hurt, like the one at the mosque
Nov 3rd, 2007
Mario
Just keep writing them books Dr. Bob! You are definitely in our prayers! We are waiting also for the book on Natural Theology! Looking forward to the second part of the Reformation Day service tomorrow….Keep pressing on and you live out Jude 3 by the grace of God.
Nov 3rd, 2007
Josh in AK
Disrupting their service would just give the media ammo to attack the Church.
I think publicly challenging their bishop to a debate and then publicly announcing their refusal to debate would be the best route.
It makes us look unafraid and them look scared in the public’s eyes, and to our humanistic society perception is reality.
And then, of course, let the ridiculing begin!
Nov 4th, 2007
Reformed Mama
I agree with Josh- send a formal challenge for debate! It would be delicious if the offer were accepted!
Nov 4th, 2007
Jimmy Li
Is this book going to be different than the syllabus?
Looking forward to it being published!
Nov 4th, 2007
travis steele
i would now have to agree with Josh
Nov 5th, 2007
Josh in AK
Dr. Morey, in Alaska we have a HUGE Russian Orthodox following, mostly because of the Russian people who live here I would guess.
The Catholic church is very large here too, as well as followers of William Branham, not to mention the Alaskan Native spirituality crud we are bombarded with every day in the media and by the state to accept as a wonderful part of their “culture”.
I am sad to say there are virtually no Reformed churches here, so in trying to think of ANY reason whatsoever to get you and your team here to visit, please pick from any one of the above.
Nov 5th, 2007
Josh in AK
O yeah, and head on up!
Nov 5th, 2007
Perry Robinson
As a former Calvinist (now Orthodox), and an aquaintence of Dr. Morey, this should be a fun read.
Long time no see Dr. Morey. Pretty soon, it will be Dr. Robinson.
Nov 15th, 2007
Dr. Robert Morey
Perry,
I heard a rumour years ago that you had drifted away from Christ after certain painful personal probems in your life. I hope you will read what I have written with an open mind.
Jude 3
DR. Morey
Nov 18th, 2007
Perry Robinson
Dear Dr. Morey,
Actually we talked on the phone last time I talked with Mike Stephens about the latest purge with Hankie.
If anything I became more Reformed after I was forced out for whistle blowing at CRI. The truth of Orthodoxy only became clear as I studied Christology and the Trinity years later far more deeply. Jude 3 and all of that-not 1500 years later.
The last time we talked, I had to set your straight on your Platonic god over the phone, but it seems you didn’t grasp the message. ;)Perhaps your Roman masters have kept the Scholastic blinders on. Van Til had them too.
It seems strange to me that someone who professes total depravity would speak of an “open mind.”
But I will take a look. Everyone now in the deformed world is running to become an instant expert on Orthodoxy-letham, fairbairn, payton and now you.
I will be in town for Christ’s Mass and the New Year so perhaps we can get some German food again, split some beer and haggle over it.Or perhaps I will just pop in and pay you a visit.
Kyerie elesion.
Nov 18th, 2007
Reformed Mama
“Roman masters”…your kidding right?
Nov 23rd, 2007
Perry Robinson
Reformed mama,
If you study theology proper it becomes clear that the philosophical theology of Platonism works its way up through Augustine into the Scholastics and then into Protestant Scholasticism in the period of Protestant Orthodoxy and then into the Princetonian theologians like Hodge and also into the Dutch like Kuyper.
So no, I am not kidding.
Nov 23rd, 2007
Reformed Mama
Dr. Bob’s Master is not Roman, but Jewish…he serves Him alone…Jesus, our Messiah.
Nov 24th, 2007
Perry Robinson
Reformed mama,
Yes, thats what Aquinas thought too. In any case I used it as a figure of speech. If you want to verify, just pick up Richard Muller’s Post Reformation Reformed Dogmatics. The platonism is quite obvious in theology proper, that is, in the doctrine of God.
Nov 24th, 2007
Jean Cauvin
Perry,
Theological Proper is in regards to the ontological structure of the Trinity and the three Persons of the Trinity in how they relate to each other. It has nothing to do with Church History.
Jean Cauvin
Apr 27th, 2008
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