James Sundquist, author of Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church?, has recently posted the audio and video/powerpoint presentation of his talk at the Southwest Radio Ministries Conference. If you know anyone caught-up in the Purpose Driven movement this is a good link to send them.
Pt. 1: Is [Rick] Warren a False Teacher, and Is 40 Days the Answer?
Pt. 2: Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church?
More from James Sundquist:
Chapter 11 of Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church? (PDF)
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These were great clips and reveal a deep current within the “Seeker” chuch in America. These are the themes that underlie Warren, Keller, MacLaren, etc…
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James Sundquist wrote me an email after viewing about 20 pages from John Macarthur’s singles ministries websites. Sundquist stated regarding Macarthur’s ministries: “I do see many transformation philosophies which copy Rick Warren or echo him.” Too bad so few know that Macarthur is fully on board with Rick Warren’s agenda. And too bad so few “discernment” leaders have the courage to look at the evidence. Read it at http://www.johnmacarthurexposed.com
Bob Johnson, people may choose to waste their time and sift through all the junk on your site, or they can save their time and not have to sift through your ridiculous claims such as:
C.S. Lewis was a Lutheran
>Wrong. He was an Anglican!
Relationship building in the local church is antithetical to Biblical Christianity because faith in and obedience to God hinders relationship building.
>Wrong. Just read the salutations of the Pauline Epistles!
Later, when I asked this same pastor/leader if he believed R Warren was a Christian, he responded, “I have no idea.” Why don’t all of John Macarthur’s pastors know that Rick Warren is not a Christian?
>EXPOSED! MacArthur’s pastors have failed the test!
In ancient Qumran, there was an alchemical foundry operated by the Essenes, a Gnostic community.
>Wrong. The Essenes were a Jewish religious group. Gnostics??? Where does that come from?
Gnostics believe they are above reading God’s Word because they have been transformed into gods, having “gnosis” (knowledge), also called the “logos” (word) or the “light” (enlightenment) within themselves. They are believing Satan’s lie: “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” Genesis 3:4-5
>Excellent example! Genius verse selection! Heaven forbid we become like those Gnostics and claim knowledge, the Logos, or light (Jn. 12:1)
John Macarthur preaches against ecumenism, however, his family and ministry are firmly rooted in the ecumenical movement.
>Really? Well, forget about what he preaches then!
Dr. Richard Mouw is also an apologist for Mormonism.
>It’s Satan I tell ya. Mouw is both the President of Fuller Seminary AND a Mormon apologist.
Bob Johnson, claims such as these are insane. And you expect for us to hear your case that “Macarthur is fully on board with Rick Warren’s agenda.” If he’s so *fully on board* then why doesn’t he just say so? You say that few “discernment” leaders have the courage to look at the evidence. What is a “discernment” leader anyway? Never mind, don’t answer…
Bottom line is that you are proven to be unreliable as a source in under three minutes flat. Your logical sloppiness and fanciful inventions render your case without merit of even being heard.
Hey Bobby,
Why do you repeatedly ignore answering my corrections and rebukes to your accusations? You delete my comments from your blog and your pal Coleman won’t let me come on his RAM radio program. What are you all trying to hide, Bobby?
Fred
Satan,
This is the one driving the “purpose” driven “Church”"”
Though unless you define purpose and church which he and you have declined to do, the discussion can no longer continue.
Respectfully,
Jean Cauvin