Paul preached Christ and Him crucified, the gospel as in 1 Corinthians 15. When Paul preached, the RESPONSES indicated the paucity and depravity of the hearers. The so-called forms were NOT established by Paul or Jesus, the responses are the Keller “forms”, the misunderstandings and misinterpretations of the hearers. So Keller has it wrong wrong wrong. Instead of preaching the gospel of Christ and Paul and the Puritans and the Reformers Keller has the Keller understanding of the Gospel based on human understandings of the message preached. The message for the circumcision and the uncircumcision was the same. The message to the Greeks and the Jews was the same – the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ in light of the condition of the human race before God. The Greeks saw it as foolishness. The circumcised saw it as an abrogation of the law. Postmoderns will see it as whatever postmoderns would see it as. So what? The gospel is the gospel and does not change. Keller misapplies and perverts the Word of God.

My next question would be, Does signing this document violate the scripture by standing with those who call themselves chrisitan, and are not.

Why are Mormons not included and JWs?

I just read it and it is definetly needed, but it is most definetly a theological document.

I hope someone will hold a national debate with the RC and EO about these statements “One true God, the Triune God of Holiness and love”…”Grounded in the Holy Scriptures, in natural human reason (which is itself, in our view, the gift of a beneficient God)”…”across historic lines of ecclesial differences”

In the meantime look at this: http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3638

” I listened to Chuck Colson speak on the Hugh Hewitt program this afternoon. He made it very clear that this is, in fact, a theological document, despite the assertions of others that it is not. ” – James White

“I would not be able to sign it since I cherish the absolute authority of the Inspired Word of God (and all its implications) far greater than the few political issues this document aims to defend. I would never call a man or woman that denies justification by faith alone a brother or sister, even at gunpoint with my wife and children watching…”

I will start a new thread on this for all to discuss.

http://www.demossnews.com/manhattandeclaration/press_kit/manhattan_declaration_signers

Another ECT type document, but the signers include Keller as well as other “evangelical” notables like Mohler, Randy Alcorn, Kay Arthur, Joni Tada.

Please explain what was “twisted” from the CT article.

You can also learn more of my position on this here:

Testing Tim Keller’s Gospel Forms